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Why You Should Avoid "A Small Orange" Web and Domain Hosting
Oct 18, 2016Web DevelopmentComments (4)
A Small Orange hosting was once the pinnacle of exceptional-quality web hosting. They had impeccable customer service and response times, great pricing and plans, and a wonderfully-designed website. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. Here's why I now recommend avoiding A Small Orange, and what host you may want to consider instead.

My Experience

I've used many web hosts over the last 14 years, including Superb, Dreamhost, GoDaddy, Yahoo Business, and Network Solutions. I switched my personal sites, including this one, over to A Small Orange hosting 4 years ago in 2012, and was extremely pleased for the first 3 years of that. I've used multiple tiers of their Shared and VPS plans, and have had several year-long subscriptions and upgrades on three separate accounts with them.

About a month ago I finally finished moving the last of my sites and domains away from A Small Orange. Their service, quality, and response times had gotten so bad that I could not risk using them any longer, and was frustrated at the lack of customer service.

What's Wrong

Here are the things that have driven me away from A Small Orange. I've emailed them about each of these issues multiple times in the past, and have taken their surveys countless times. I earnestly tried to give them feedback on these issues, in hopes that they would fix them. Unfortunately, things only got worse and worse.

Customer Support Response Time

A Small Orange customer support took a drastic nose dive sometime in late 2015 or early 2016. Whereas before customer support would respond without 24 hours, it now usually takes anywhere from 5 to 10 days to get an initial response, and sometimes several weeks for a resolution on issues.

Domains Held Hostage
Last year (2015) I had over 10 domains registered with A Small Orange. I moved them, a few at a time, over to Google Domains, and just finished moving the last of them in September.

Prior to transferring a domain, you must remove its WHOIS privacy protection, which for A Small Orange requires opening a support case so they can remove it.

On three separate occasions, it took weeks to get resolution. One of my domains came concerningly close to expiration (less than 30 days) before I could get them to respond to my request to remove the privacy protection.

  • April 22, 2016
    I opened a support case April 22nd to have privacy removed on two domains. On April 28th they finally removed the privacy protection, but only the billing side (the domains still showed WHOIS privacy contact). It took a couple more back-and-forths to get final resolution, which was on May 2nd, 10 days after my initial inquiry.

  • May 10, 2016
    I opened a support case May 10th to have privacy removed on one domain. No response until May 17th, where they again only removed the billing side. Final resolution was on May 19th, 9 days after my initial inquiry.

  • August 19, 2016
    I opened a support case August 19th to have privacy removed on four domains. No response for over a week. Opened a second support case August 30th. Finally received first response on September 7th. This time they asked for my support code to verify, before being able to help. This is a code shown on the left column when logged in. I responded with my code the same day.

    Nearly two weeks go by without any response. I sent another reply on September 20th, with no response. After three more days (September 23rd), I decided to try live chat, now that two of my domains were 30 days out from expiration. It took over a half hour on live chat to get resolution (9:03AM to 9:37AM). They finally got it resolved, only a short 35 days after my initial inquiry.

  • WHOIS Privacy Protection
    I also had a support issue with a domain on my business account. The WHOIS privacy protection kept disappearing, exposing my personal contact information. I had to contact them in March and again in May of 2016 to get them to re-enable it.

Website Layout and Design

In February 2015, A Small Orange updated their website layout to a new responsive website. Since then they've gone through a few revisions of it, but have never gotten it right. It is incredibly buggy, both on desktop and mobile. I am convinced they have people working on it that simply don't know how to make a good website, or don't care to.

The old website (used from January 2012 to January 2015) was very solid and worked well. Despite being not responsive, it worked better on mobile owing to it being production-ready and mostly bug-free.

Responsive Site
Have a look at their current mobile site landing page:

A Small Orange Buggy Mobile Layout

And the account page when on mobile:

A Small Orange Buggy Mobile Layout

This is just downright awful. Bad spacing, bad menus, and bad icons. Why did they even bother with a mobile site? And it's been like this for over a year.

The site has plenty of problems on desktop too. When editing a domain, there is no sub-nav. You have to navigate back to the domains listing page if you want to do more than one action on a domain.

Every time you log in, you have to click a separate checkbox saying you agree to their TOS. Every time. And if you mistype your password it erases the email field, making you retype your email as well.

Server Downtime

Around the time that I started experiencing the bad support, their server downtime and outages started to increase. I don't have any hard data on this unfortunately, but I can say that the shared servers were more prone to this than the VPS.

The petyrbaelish shared server, which I had two small business sites on, was particularly prone to downtime. At least 4 times in the last year I had found my sites unresponsive, checked, and it was just petyrbaelish that was down.

Endurance International Group (EIG)

The most likely reason for A Small Orange's decline is EIG, which purchased them in 2012 (and something I didn't learn about until a year ago). EIG is notorious for buying up successful/popular web hosting companies and causing their service and support to nose dive after a period of time. With A Small Orange it took a few years, but the inevitable happened.

I highly recommend reading more about EIG on this Reddit Wiki and then reading more about the EIG buyout of A Small Orange at Review Signal.

Web Host Alternatives

It's difficult to trust any web host after going through this, not knowing who EIG might buy next. I decided to see what Amazon AWS was all about. I figured a company like Amazon isn't going to tank, and I probably wouldn't need to contact support ever thanks to how much documentation and information is out there.

Amazon AWS
I started out with Amazon Elastic Beanstalk, which is an abstraction layer that uses several Amazon services (EC2, RDS) in order to create a simple web host. Unfortunately, it's simplicity didn't suit my needs very well.

To make Amazon AWS work for me, I would have to create an EC2 Linux instance and configure the web host from scratch. Having worked with VPS Linux servers before, this wasn't too daunting. It was about this time that I decided to see what other cloud compute hosts there were. Turns out, Google offers a service very similar to Amazon.

Google Cloud Platform
Google is much newer than Amazon in the cloud computing space, but has a very refined service that includes cloud computing (GCE), storage, and other similar services. I found it easier to dive in to than Amazon, and their compute pricing was slightly better.

Final Alternative
In the end I decided to use Google Compute Engine for my web host, and Amazon S3 for my scalable storage needs (Amazon S3 being slightly less-expensive than Google Storage). This approach is not for everyone though. You have to be comfortable using Linux, setting up DNS, and configuring files and permissions manually. There's plenty of documentation and a free 60-day trial though, so why not try it?
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Peter Warlock   Dec 19, 2022
I've been trying to reset my password. I get the message that I have to answer the security question, but it doesn't say what the question is! I've been guessing, to no avail. They do not respond to my online messages, and there is no chatbot help. I'm going to lose my site and my domain.
Barbara Spink   Feb 25, 2021
When you transferred your URL from A Small Orange to Google Domains, did you lose the gmail account associated with the account? They appear to be storing files on our gmail account.
Rob Falk   Sep 17, 2019
Same email problem. They claim to be working on it. They're a bunch of bozos. I'm looking for inexpensive host and email solution.
SrM   Aug 28, 2019
I cannot email any of my clients who use or for over 40 days. and they tell me it is fixed Run away as far as you can EGI only care about $$ the benjamins to service their debt load payments. And they will ding yor CC continiously even when you cancel and migrate to another service